Policing Is Not Broken, It’s ‘Literally Designed to Work in This Way’

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Derek Chauvin has been found guilty of the murder of George Floyd. But whatever bittersweet feelings the rare outcome elicited were short-lived, since instances of police brutality compound almost daily. There’s no debate: Policing is broken in America. But how do we fix it?

To answer that question, Jane brings together a round table to debate solutions ranging from modernizing training, stronger ties between police misconduct and financial culpability, and divesting from policing to invest in community-based services.

Joining Jane is Randy Shrewsberry, a former police officer and the executive director of the Institute for Criminal Justice Training Reform; Rashawn Ray, a professor of sociology at the University of Maryland and a David M. Rubenstein fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution; and Ash-Lee Woodard Henderson, a leader in the Movement for Black Lives and an executive director of the Highlander Research and Education Center in Tennessee.

Mentioned in this episode:

  • The George Floyd Justice in Policing bill of 2021 and the Breathe Act proposal

  • From The New York Times Magazine: “Police Reform Is Necessary. But How Do We Do It?”

  • “Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America” by Jill Leovy

Credit…Photograph by Steve Skinner, via Getty Image

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